Bangle.js 2 main board.

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  • Hi @Gordon, I managed to destroy my bangle.js 2 :(

    I had the magic3's charging cable next to the bangle's one, I used the wrong one, it must have touched the swd pins, it died. :(

    Anyway, I have made progress, my UI is playing so nice along with yours, so I will order a new one.

    But I am angry that I was so stupid, I want to fix it. Is there a posibility to get a new main board too, if I order a new watch, and of cource pay for it.?

    Also, I noticed something strange, but it looks like there is a touch sensitive button right bellow the touch screen, like on the dsd6. When I touch under the screen, it displays the last image it had before it died, could it be that there is a button there, that we have not used?

    I can make a video if you like.

  • False alarm, it is working again, it was a soft brick I guess, the battery run out quite fast and now it is ok again. :)

    I tested pins 4,9,10,11,12,18,20,28,40,41,46 but none of them worked with what I think is a button under the screen.

    I am uploading a video, this is when it was bricked, the phone camera makes it flicker. You can see that something happens when I touch under the screen, could it be just a coincidence?

    I am really hopping it has a button like the dk08 had, then autosleep missing on the 816 would not be a problem. Any ideas?

    https://streamable.com/5mzrt6

  • Glad it's working again! Out of interest do you have the covering on the 2 middle pins of the Bangle charge connector still? Those go straight to SWD so when exposed can cause all kinds of issues.

    ... but even reverse voltage the charge connector can cause issues. It's very frustrating that the designers didn't even put a diode in there - but yes, you'll have to be very careful with charge cables if you have another 4 pin one that's wired differently - I didn't know those existed :(

    On the touch at the bottom of the screen, I'm pretty sure that's just the MEMLCD_DISP pin I'm afraid - probably the CPU locked up and the pin when open circuit, so then interference from your finger could toggle it on the LCD.

  • Out of interest do you have the covering on the 2 middle pins of the Bangle charge connector still? Those go straight to SWD so when exposed can cause all kinds of issues.

    no, I have them exposed, it is a kickstarter watch, I knew what happened the moment I saw the screen go out, so stupid. Well, ok I didn't know, I thought I fried it, but it is ok :)

    but yes, you'll have to be very careful with charge cables if you have another 4 pin one that's wired differently - I didn't know those existed :(

    the magic has a 2 pin cable, the magnets are at the same distanceas the bangle, but one of them is always on the opposite polarity, so one cannot accidentally make a mistake. I forced in place, and when forced the charging pins of the magic's cable go to the swd on the bangle. My mistake.

    just as an info, p22 and magic/rock, do have the same cable and reverced polarity, but they both have diodes I guess, none is damaged by using the wrong cable.

    On the touch at the bottom of the screen, I'm pretty sure that's just the MEMLCD_DISP pin I'm afraid - probably the CPU locked up and the pin when open circuit, so then interference from your finger could toggle it on the LCD.

    ok that explains it, I was hopping it could be a way to wake the screen, but it was a long shot, you would have found it already. Thanks and sorry for wasting your time.

    Your idea on changing the loader to upload the files with something else than ".info" was excellent, I can finally appreciate the bangle. Thank you.

  • No worries - just glad it's ok! I'd definitely add something over the middle pins though - if only to remove the possibility of corrosion.

  • I'd definitely add something over the middle pins though - if only to remove the possibility of corrosion.

    will do, thank you.

  • Just FYI I found the work on the touchscreen sleeping - it wasn't on the forum at all, it was on GitHub: https://github.com/espruino/Espruino/issues/2146

  • Just FYI I found the work on the touchscreen sleeping - it wasn't on the forum at all, it was on GitHub: https://github.com/espruino/Espruino/issues/2146

    thank you, I have played with the 816 a lot, the p8 the p22 and the rock have it, a lot of differences, they report the touch id with a different numbers, they go to deep/standby sleep using a different register(the 816 on p22 enters standby using the register the 716 is using for sleep), but with time I managed to have them all work fine with auto standby. Except the one on bangle 2 :)

    I cannot understand why he says that

    It seems that changing 0xFA to something away from test mode breaks the touch handling for unknown reason
    

    it is not the case as far as I have tested, it just does nothing. I can change all the registers I know that do something, and they work, except the DisAutoSleep register, the 0xFA, this has no effect.

  • On the touch at the bottom of the screen, I'm pretty sure that's just the MEMLCD_DISP pin I'm afraid - probably the CPU locked up and the pin when open circuit, so then interference from your finger could toggle it on the LCD.

    just to make sure this is a dead end too, please watch this video if you missed it. I thought about interference too, it is just that the only place where it was happening was where a button could be, like on the dk08 etc, it was not random, there was no other place that caused it to act.

    Just to verify, most probably it is a coincidence?

    https://streamable.com/5mzrt6

    I tried setting D7 (MEMLCD_DISP) to opendrain, I do not see it change state when use the finger touching the "button" area, but maybe this is something I cannot really test.

  • I was wrong, again :)

    You are correct, it is indeed pin D7 that gets interfeared when I touch my finger on the "button" area.

    When it was bricked and I had it on the charger, the screen would stay on as long as I had my finger on the "button" area.

    but when it was not on the charger, I could get it to turn on the display for a moment only if I run my finger across the "button" area fast.

    I can replicate this now if I do:

    D7.mode("opendrain"); 
    D7.write(1);
    

    so you were correct, it is the D7 pin that somehow can be interfered with.

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