Acceptable Clones? Perhaps passed through Gordon?

Gordon, I was thinking on why I am using the p8 instead of the bangle.js2 those last years. When I started playing with espruino, I had perfect vision. I have a dear friend that uses glassed to see close, we were using the euc to ride together, so when I was coding the p8, I made everything huge, he was my tester, he always wanted bigger, no text if possible, symbols were better, so I even made two dash versions, one with details for me, one simple for him. Color coding states in fields of interest was also a way to help him.

time has passed, I now too use glasses to see close, old age :) I cannot use the settings on the bangle.js2 if I have no glasses on, on the p8 I can, just as a feedback.

Sounds promising about the separate app loader...

Interesting about the screen. But the P8's (basically PineTime?) screen is very similar size-wise? It's 1.3 inch still?

So it's more about the contrast you get inside?

Interesting about the screen. But the P8's (basically PineTime?) screen is very similar size-wise? It's 1.3 inch still?

So it's more about the contrast you get inside?

I tried to explain to me, why is my bangle.js2 unused for so long? The watch it self I like, maybe the p8 a bit better because I have the bangle in blue, but I like it, nice watch. The screen is indeed a bit smaller, less contrast as you said, with older age contrast gets lower along with the difficulty so see close, so yes, inside the p8 is a lot easier to use. Outside the p8 is good too, better that pinetime, better contrast, visible at direct sunlight, not nice, but visible, I can easily tell if a field is red or yellow. 1.4 inches the P8 is.

But I also can explain why the potential of using the bangle apps, and a more mature environment, did not drive me to choose the bangle anyway. In eucwatch everything is fixed, to change the brightness I do 3 moves. When running on the bangle, it is not as easy to see, but I can mechanically do the moves, everything is in known positions, no scrolling lists. The official settings, the old ones I have maybe, I cannot see, I cannot change the brightness, even with glasses I have to pay attention a bit.

I just checked a few apps from the official store I had already installed on the bangle, barometer, a bike speedometer, gps info, gps navigation, health, heart rate monitor, those apps I cannot really use if not wearing glasses and paying attention, and there are a few text fields I need a magnifying glass for.

I think one cannot really feel how it is to not have perfect vision until it happens, I remember I could not understand my friend. I think this is why I haven't put a real effort towards integration, I bought the bangle after my close sight was not perfect, and was not wearing glasses in hopes to delay it, I can not use the menu that pops when I call Bangle.showLauncher() without glasses now, I am old :(