1.67 clock offset

Hi All,

I have two espruino's both with:

http://www.espruino.com/Clocks

The 32Khz Watch Crystal soldered onto it. I tried the clock example from that page as well as my own implementation and there is quite a big drift: depending on which espruino I use, 1 - 3 seconds on the minute.

Did anyone else notice this?

The program I want to use this for is a simple light switch. On in the morning, off in the afternoon.

var hours = 21;
var minutes = 58;
var seconds = 0;

var port = {pin:C6, brightness:0};
var fadeInterval = 5;

function timestep() {
  seconds += 1;
  if (seconds == 60) {
    seconds = 0;
    minutes += 1;
  }
  if (minutes == 60) {
    minutes = 0;
    hours += 1;
  }
  if (hours == 24) {
    hours = 0;
  }
  updateBehaviourFade();
}

/**
 * This fades in the lights on the port.pin
 * @param {Number} fadeInterval | time in seconds to fade in
 */
function fadeIn(fadeInterval) {
  if (port.brightness == 0) {
    analogWrite(port.pin,1/255);


    var fadeInID = setInterval(function () {
        port.brightness += 1/255;
        if (port.brightness > 1) {
          analogWrite(port.pin,1);
          port.brightness = 1;
          clearInterval(fadeInID);
        }
        else {
          analogWrite(port.pin,port.brightness);
        }
      },
      fadeInterval*1000/255
    );
  }
}

/**
 * This fades out the lights on the port.pin
 * @param {Number} fadeInterval | time in seconds to fade out
 */
function fadeOut(fadeInterval) {
  if (port.brightness == 1) {
    analogWrite(port.pin,1 - 1/255);
    var fadeOutID = setInterval(function () {
        port.brightness -= 1/255;
        if (port.brightness < 0) {
          port.brightness = 0;
          analogWrite(port.pin,0);
          clearInterval(fadeOutID);
        }
        else {
          analogWrite(port.pin,port.brightness);
        }
      },
      fadeInterval*1000/255
    );
  }
}

function updateBehaviourFade() {
  if (hours >= 8 && port.brightness == 0) {
    fadeIn(fadeInterval);
  }
  if (hours >= 23 && port.brightness == 1) {
    fadeOut(fadeInterval);
  }
 }

function onInit() {
  analogWrite(C6,0);
  setInterval(timestep,1000);
}

Would the fading interfere with the clock?

Regards,

Alex

PS. also the fading isn't linear.. it seems to be faster and slower during the fading cycle.

It sounds a lot like you're still working off the internal oscillator... That kind of accuracy is what you'd expect from it.

Can you try copying and pasting this into the console?

["NONE","LSE","LSI","HSE"][((peek32(0x40021020)&768)>>8)]

If the watch crystal is working properly, it should return 'LSE', but if not it'd return 'LSI'.

The fading shouldn't interfere with the RTC at all... You're using setInterval there, which should be absolutely fine - but you can now actually use the Date class and clock module if you want to. It means that you don't have to keep track of time every second if you don't want to, and you get the day of the week/etc too:

 var Clock = require("clock").Clock;
 var clk=new Clock("Jun 23, 2014 12:18:02");

 // every time the button is pressed, print the current time..
  setInterval(function() {
    var d=clk.getDate(); 
    // you can then use d.getHours() and g.getMinutes()
  }, 10000/*or whatever*/);

As far as the non-linear fading, I'm not sure. Is it not just that the light you're using is itself non-linear? For instance I believe that if you have an LED, pulsing it at 10% duty cycle will probably generate more than 10% of the light that you'd get by running it at 100% duty cycle.

You might also find that specifying a frequency when using analogWrite would help out with that: analogWrite(port.pin,port.brightness,{freq:500});

Hi Gordon,

Thanks for the answer, I'll test this as soon as I have time!

Regards.

Alex

(on a sidenote, the forum isn't remembering notify by email?)

Hi Gordon,

It's returning LSE, also I clocked it again, 8 seconds on 3 minutes. There's also a HM-10 on these espruino's, would that matter? Its only a serial connection right?

Regards,

Alex

Ok, that's good then. Hm10 won't be an issue.

Can you check the value from getTime and see if that wanders off, or whether it's just setInterval?

Just wondering, is it possible that the crystal you're using is 32000hz and not 32768hz? I just assumed that all 32khz crystals were the latter (because of how they'd be used), but maybe not...

8 secs in 3 minutes is very close to the difference between the two crystals. If it's accurately losing that much time you could just correct it in the value you give to setInterval.

Hi Gordon,

I'm yet to test the getTime function but I ordered these crystals:
http://nl.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=1652573

Unless they gave me the wrong ones It should be 32768hz..

Yes, those look perfect. It'd definitely be interesting to see whether getTime has problems too.

Does it seem like Espruino's internal clock is running too quickly, or too slowly?

Hi Gordon,

I tried getTime with one of them. Here are the results:

Running onInit()...
22 27 1 8.89654541015
22 27 2 9.87362384796
22 27 3 10.85043907165
>["NONE","LSE","LSI","HSE"][((peek32(0x40021020)&768)>>8)]
="LSE"
22 27 4 11.82781124114
22 27 5 12.80497169494
22 27 6 13.78127479553
22 27 7 14.75885581970
22 27 8 15.73618793487
22 27 9 16.71329021453
22 27 10 17.68983268737
22 27 11 18.66729640960
22 27 12 19.64469623565
22 27 13 20.62130546569
22 27 14 21.59873771667
22 27 15 22.57538700103
22 27 16 23.55257987976
22 27 17 24.52955722808
22 27 18 25.50629901885
22 27 19 26.48370838165
22 27 20 27.46107578277
22 27 21 28.43755435943
22 27 22 29.41496467590
22 27 23 30.39203929901
22 27 24 31.36863899230
22 27 25 32.34608268737
22 27 26 33.32317829132
22 27 27 34.30036544799
22 27 28 35.27692508697
22 27 29 36.25446891784
22 27 30 37.23196983337
22 27 31 38.20841407775
22 27 32 39.17696094512
22 27 33 40.14436244964
22 27 34 41.11141586303
22 27 35 42.07813072204
22 27 36 43.04565048217
22 27 37 44.01294136047
22 27 38 44.97966384887
22 27 39 45.94723033905
22 27 40 46.91443347930
22 27 41 47.88146877288
22 27 42 48.84821319580
22 27 43 49.81562614440
22 27 44 50.78271198272
22 27 45 51.74902725219
22 27 46 52.71672534942
22 27 47 53.68405914306
22 27 48 54.65052795410
22 27 49 55.61753273010
22 27 50 56.58525753021
22 27 51 57.55184650421
22 27 52 58.51905536651
22 27 53 59.48586845397
22 27 54 60.45320510864
22 27 55 61.42058277130
22 27 56 62.38734245300
22 27 57 63.35481452941
22 27 58 64.32194614410
22 27 59 65.28926372528
22 28 0 66.25617694854
22 28 1 67.22333431243
22 28 2 68.19010353088
22 28 3 69.15674114227
22 28 4 70.12435626983
22 28 5 71.09159755706
22 28 6 72.05858993530
22 28 7 73.02545547485
22 28 8 73.99303150177
22 28 9 74.95989799499
22 28 10 75.92654418945
22 28 11 76.89402294158
22 28 12 77.86119842529
22 28 13 78.82830810546
22 28 14 79.79456424713
22 28 15 80.76237297058
22 28 16 81.72950744628
22 28 17 82.69598865509
22 28 18 83.66352081298
22 28 19 84.63085842132
22 28 20 85.59737682342
22 28 21 86.56439304351
22 28 22 87.53121662139
22 28 23 88.49844074249
22 28 24 89.46592426300
22 28 25 90.43259620666
22 28 26 91.40005779266
22 28 27 92.36719226837
22 28 28 93.33396911621
22 28 29 94.30138015747
22 28 30 95.26851844787
22 28 31 96.23584556579
22 28 32 97.20260143280
22 28 33 98.17017459869
22 28 34 99.13756942749
22 28 35 100.10418987274
22 28 36 101.07176780700
22 28 37 102.03902435302
22 28 38 103.00602912902
22 28 39 103.97282505035
22 28 40 104.94040489196
22 28 41 105.90770339965
22 28 42 106.87440109252
22 28 43 107.84176254272
22 28 44 108.80907344818
22 28 45 109.77622699737
22 28 46 110.74252700805
22 28 47 111.71034812927
22 28 48 112.67763710021
22 28 49 113.64414405822
22 28 50 114.61173534393
22 28 51 115.57839584350
22 28 52 116.54544925689
22 28 53 117.51273441314
22 28 54 118.47938537597
22 28 55 119.44679546356
22 28 56 120.41403484344
22 28 57 121.38079738616
22 28 58 122.34818935394
22 28 59 123.31535625457
22 29 0 124.28244972229
22 29 1 125.24951934814
22 29 2 126.21704196929
22 29 3 127.18405437469
22 29 4 128.15081787109
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22 29 6 130.08529472351
22 29 7 131.05198574066
22 29 8 132.01952838897
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22 29 10 133.95380210876
22 29 11 134.92061901092
22 29 12 135.88815116882
22 29 13 136.85531616210
22 29 14 137.82149314880
22 29 15 138.78920650482
22 29 16 139.75653076171
22 29 17 140.72360706329
22 29 18 141.69012451171
22 29 19 142.65779495239
22 29 20 143.62495136260
22 29 21 144.59137916564
22 29 22 145.55818462371
22 29 23 146.52558612823
22 29 24 147.49297714233
22 29 25 148.45994281768
22 29 26 149.42677593231
22 29 27 150.39429092407
22 29 28 151.36148071289
22 29 29 152.32823085784
22 29 30 153.29566287994
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22 29 32 155.22980785369
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22 29 34 157.16458511352
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22 29 39 162.00023937225
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22 29 53 175.53966617584
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22 29 55 177.47377395629
22 29 56 178.44114017486
22 29 57 179.40784454345
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22 29 59 181.34243965148
22 30 0 182.30955028533
22 30 1 183.27625942230
22 30 2 184.24385643005
22 30 3 185.21126842498
22 30 4 186.17786598205
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22 30 7 189.07970333099
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22 30 12 193.91568279266
22 30 13 194.88286590576
22 30 14 195.84993267059
22 30 15 196.81623935699
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22 30 17 198.75120639801
22 30 18 199.71769332885
22 30 19 200.68547439575
22 30 20 201.65268230438
22 30 21 202.61917877197
22 30 22 203.58617210388
22 30 23 204.55388450622
22 30 24 205.52055644989
22 30 25 206.48801231384
22 30 26 207.45453739166
22 30 27 208.42182731628
22 30 28 209.38918209075
22 30 29 210.35595798492
22 30 30 211.32342720031
22 30 31 212.29054927825
22 30 32 213.25790596008
22 30 33 214.22473812103
22 30 34 215.19185161590
22 30 35 216.15999317169
22 30 36 217.12664890289
22 30 37 218.09422779083
22 30 38 219.06140232086
22 30 39 220.02842235565
22 30 40 220.99529457092
22 30 41 221.96289157867
22 30 42 222.93021774291
22 30 43 223.89696311950
22 30 44 224.86442661285
22 30 45 225.83157253265
22 30 46 226.79866313934
22 30 47 227.76496028900
22 30 48 228.73280620574
22 30 49 229.70020866394
22 30 50 230.66671943664
22 30 51 231.63428211212
22 30 52 232.60087776184
22 30 53 233.56793117523
22 30 54 234.53498554229
22 30 55 235.50187206268
22 30 56 236.46923542022
22 30 57 237.43669700622
22 30 58 238.40335559844
22 30 59 239.37069702148
22 31 0 240.33797454833
22 31 1 241.30460739135
22 31 2 242.27206420898
22 31 3 243.23953437805
22 31 4 244.20658493041
22 31 5 245.17336845397
22 31 6 246.14100742340
22 31 7 247.10786342620
22 31 8 248.07446098327
22 31 9 249.04199314117
22 31 10 250.00922775268

In case its not clear: HH-mm-ss getTime().

getTime() does seem to be OK, 4 minutes take 232 seconds, which is what the getTime() tells us and what I clocked on a stopwatch.

I soldered on a new crystal (same batch) with these results. I'll check the other espruino..

Here is the other one, v1.65

Running onInit()...
22 27 1 21.6793498992919921875
22 27 2 22.6577320098876953125
22 27 3 23.63539981842041015625
22 27 4 24.6135311126708984375
22 27 5 25.59200000762939453125
22 27 6 26.56999301910400390625
22 27 7 27.54819965362548828125
22 27 8 28.5260028839111328125
22 27 9 29.504459381103515625
22 27 10 30.48296642303466796875
22 27 11 31.460605621337890625
22 27 12 32.4389801025390625
22 27 13 33.4174594879150390625
22 27 14 34.39554691314697265625
22 27 15 35.373382568359375
22 27 16 36.35190486907958984375
22 27 17 37.33017826080322265625
>["NONE","LSE","LSI","HSE"][((peek32(0x40021020)&768)>>8)]
="LSE"
22 27 18 38.30799102783203125
22 27 19 39.28640842437744140625
22 27 20 40.26471233367919921875
22 27 21 41.24311065673828125
22 27 22 42.220947265625
22 27 23 43.19915866851806640625
22 27 24 44.17764949798583984375
22 27 25 45.1553211212158203125
22 27 26 46.13389301300048828125
22 27 27 47.1121234893798828125
22 27 28 48.09015178680419921875
22 27 29 49.06807708740234375
22 27 30 50.04666805267333984375
22 27 31 51.024890899658203125
22 27 32 51.99732208251953125
22 27 33 52.96969318389892578125
22 27 34 53.9417438507080078125
22 27 35 54.91380405426025390625
22 27 36 55.88543605804443359375
22 27 37 56.85776805877685546875
22 27 38 57.8298473358154296875
22 27 39 58.8011150360107421875
22 27 40 59.7736797332763671875
22 27 41 60.7458362579345703125
22 27 42 61.7172794342041015625
22 27 43 62.68971729278564453125
22 27 44 63.66189670562744140625
22 27 45 64.63356304168701171875
22 27 46 65.6055278778076171875
22 27 47 66.57803249359130859375
22 27 48 67.5496959686279296875
22 27 49 68.52170467376708984375
22 27 50 69.493465423583984375
22 27 51 70.46565341949462890625
22 27 52 71.4378414154052734375
22 27 53 72.40976047515869140625
22 27 54 73.38159942626953125
22 27 55 74.3539581298828125
22 27 56 75.32599544525146484375
22 27 57 76.29769992828369140625
22 27 58 77.26997280120849609375
22 27 59 78.24228382110595703125
22 28 0 79.2143840789794921875
22 28 1 80.1859912872314453125
22 28 2 81.15838527679443359375
22 28 3 82.13042449951171875
22 28 4 83.10216045379638671875
22 28 5 84.07446765899658203125
22 28 6 85.04660129547119140625
22 28 7 86.0183620452880859375
22 28 8 86.99079799652099609375
22 28 9 87.96288013458251953125
22 28 10 88.93489551544189453125
22 28 11 89.9065151214599609375
22 28 12 90.87888813018798828125
22 28 13 91.85096645355224609375
22 28 14 92.822284698486328125
22 28 15 93.794811248779296875
22 28 16 94.76702117919921875
22 28 17 95.73899173736572265625
22 28 18 96.71039485931396484375
22 28 19 97.6830501556396484375
22 28 20 98.6552276611328125
22 28 21 99.62683391571044921875
22 28 22 100.59920978546142578125
22 28 23 101.5708065032958984375
22 28 24 102.54278850555419921875
22 28 25 103.5148906707763671875
22 28 26 104.48648929595947265625
22 28 27 105.4586944580078125
22 28 28 106.43090152740478515625
22 28 29 107.402645111083984375
22 28 30 108.374965667724609375
22 28 31 109.3471012115478515625
22 28 32 110.31902313232421875
22 28 33 111.2907810211181640625
22 28 34 112.263031005859375
22 28 35 113.23541259765625
22 28 36 114.20707225799560546875
22 28 37 115.179164886474609375
22 28 38 116.15148448944091796875
22 28 39 117.123111724853515625
22 28 40 118.09561920166015625
22 28 41 119.067718505859375
22 28 42 120.03966426849365234375
22 28 43 121.01142406463623046875
22 28 44 121.9838428497314453125
22 28 45 122.95589733123779296875
22 28 46 123.92756175994873046875
22 28 47 124.89993381500244140625
22 28 48 125.871959686279296875
22 28 49 126.843891143798828125
22 28 50 127.81539154052734375
22 28 51 128.7880573272705078125
22 28 52 129.7601871490478515625
22 28 53 130.73161220550537109375
22 28 54 131.70409107208251953125
22 28 55 132.676342010498046875
22 28 56 133.647891998291015625
22 28 57 134.6198272705078125
22 28 58 135.59224605560302734375
22 28 59 136.56395053863525390625
22 29 0 137.5361194610595703125
22 29 1 138.50775909423828125
22 29 2 139.4799404144287109375
22 29 3 140.45213985443115234375
22 29 4 141.42403125762939453125
22 29 5 142.39580821990966796875
22 29 6 143.36806964874267578125
22 29 7 144.34004116058349609375
22 29 8 145.31172847747802734375
22 29 9 146.283924102783203125
22 29 10 147.25627994537353515625

Also not correct, yet it shows in the getTime(), same as my stopwatch.
The first espruino is v1.67.

It seems to be much worse after I upload the code and type save(). If I just upload the code and manually call onInit() it it better. Here is the manually called onInit of the 1.67:

22 27 1 62.04144763946
22 27 2 63.01845932006
22 27 3 63.99542236328
22 27 4 64.97240543365
22 27 5 65.94935226440
22 27 6 66.92637348175
22 27 7 67.90332508087
22 27 8 68.88040161132
22 27 9 69.85738754272
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22 27 11 71.81145000457
22 27 12 72.78848361968
22 27 13 73.76540756225
22 27 14 74.74249744415
22 27 15 75.71944808959
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22 27 25 85.48942184448
22 27 26 86.46641731262
22 27 27 87.44345855712
22 27 28 88.42042732238
22 27 29 89.39747524261
22 27 30 90.37452411651
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22 27 32 92.31992244720
22 27 33 93.28700923919
22 27 34 94.25407695770
22 27 35 95.22115898132
22 27 36 96.18831157684
22 27 37 97.15537548065
22 27 38 98.12246131896
22 27 39 99.08957481384
22 27 40 100.05665969848
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22 27 42 101.99077320098
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22 27 45 104.89206600189
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22 27 47 106.82629871368
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22 27 55 114.56319427490
22 27 56 115.53030586242
22 27 57 116.49734687805
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22 27 59 118.43156623840
22 28 0 119.39883327484
22 28 1 120.36578750610
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22 28 3 122.30000400543
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22 28 5 124.23418426513
22 28 6 125.20124530792
22 28 7 126.16832637786
22 28 8 127.13538837432
22 28 9 128.10246276855
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22 28 11 130.03668880462
22 28 12 131.00378131866
22 28 13 131.97083473205
22 28 14 132.93795204162
22 28 15 133.90508079528
22 28 16 134.87220001220
22 28 17 135.83931541442
22 28 18 136.80638217926
22 28 19 137.77352046966
22 28 20 138.74057006835
22 28 21 139.70764160156
22 28 22 140.67482089996
22 28 23 141.64192008972
22 28 24 142.60910320281
22 28 25 143.57615947723
22 28 26 144.54324245452
22 28 27 145.51032924652
22 28 28 146.47754764556
22 28 29 147.44473648071
22 28 30 148.41178321838
22 28 31 149.37881755828
22 28 32 150.34591579437
22 28 33 151.31318759918
>["NONE","LSE","LSI","HSE"][((peek32(0x40021020)&768)>>8)]
="LSI"
22 28 34 152.28048610687
>["NONE","LSE","LSI","HSE"][((peek32(0x40021020)&768)>>8)]
="LSI"
22 28 35 153.24770450592
22 28 36 154.21473979949
22 28 37 155.18192100524
22 28 38 156.14902687072
22 28 39 157.11621379852
22 28 40 158.08322429656
22 28 41 159.05019569396
22 28 42 160.01736259460
22 28 43 160.98453330993
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22 28 45 162.91889667510
22 28 46 163.88599586486
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22 28 53 170.65542411804
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22 28 55 172.58959102630
22 28 56 173.55673122406
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22 28 58 175.49096393585
22 28 59 176.45804309844
22 29 0 177.42534351348
22 29 1 178.39237117767
22 29 2 179.35943412780
22 29 3 180.32653617858
22 29 4 181.29371166229
22 29 5 182.26078987121
22 29 6 183.22798061370
22 29 7 184.19512653350
22 29 8 185.16219806671
22 29 9 186.12931823730
22 29 10 187.09645080566

This one is LSI again, I don't know why... Time is spot - on though!

It seems to sometimes forget it is LSE. Sometimes when I plug it in, it says LSI, then I reset it (with the button) and it is LSE again. When it was LSI the timing was correct. Any ideas? Either I'm a sucky (though very consistent :)) solderer or something somewhere is wrong...

I think it can take a few seconds to switch over to LSE - the oscillator takes a while to stabilise and Espruino runs off of LSI until it has. If it fails to start the oscillator (note that you can't use C15 for anything as that is an oscillator pin) then it'll stay with LSI, so that could be what's happening in some cases?

So you're saying that the time from getTime is always correct, but it's just the interval that isn't working properly? If so it'll be some issue with the Espruino firmware itself.

This is definitely some issue with Espruino... My guess is that when the intervals changed (with the 32 bit switch) something got messed up. I'll look into it and should hopefully get a fix in for the 1v68 version.

Ok, fixed. You can try out a pre-release build (once it has built) in an hour or so at:

http://www.espruino.com/binaries/git/commits/b7e330060a3c0d7ff1fe56583cd0e57caa749849

Just go there, copy the link address of the binary, and paste it into the 'advanced flasher' text box in the Web IDE's settings page.

Hi Gordon,

Thanks for the fix! I'll wait for 1.68 before trying it out since I'll be on holidays anyway. Glad you found it so quickly!

Regards